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Grizlas
Glasir scandal in perspective

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Posted on 09-01-2019 09:51
How bad is the whole Glasir construction debacle compared to other "similar" construction projects - please help me add to this list.



project Niels Bohr bygningen
m2 52.000
DKK 1.780.000.000
DKK/m2 34.231

project Royal Arena
m2 37.000
DKK 1.400.000.000
DKK/m2 37.838

project Århus kulturhus: Dokk1
m2 10.000
DKK 2.100.000.000
DKK/m2 210.000

project DR Byen
m2 131.000
DKK 5.500.000.000
DKK/m2 41.985

project Københavns Opera
m2 41.000
DKK 2.500.000.000
DKK/m2 60.976

project Glasir
m2 19.500
DKK 661.500.000
DKK/m2 33.923





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RE: Glasir scandal in perspective

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Location: Argir
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Posted on 09-01-2019 13:02
project Skúlin á Fløtum
m2 11.000
DKK 350.000.000 meting
DKK/m2 31.818


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Posted on 09-01-2019 13:34
Upprunaliga metingin fyri Niels Bohr var 1.600 milliónir. Nú siga tey 2.900 milliónir.



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Posted on 09-01-2019 13:35
Krestovsky Stadium
m2 115.640 (building m2 105.800 - pitch m2 9840)
DKK 4.875.493.900,00 (EUR 653.000.000)
DKK/m2 42.160



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RE: Glasir scandal in perspective

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Posted on 09-01-2019 19:35
You should stick to comparing similar type of buildings, i.e. schools and maybe university campus buildings.

It is not useful to compare a school with a multi-arena, stadium, power plant, culture house or other building, they contain wildly different things, serve different purposes, and are build to completely different standards. Royal Arena was built to a completely different standard then Boxen, costing nearly 5 times as much, even if the seat count is pretty much the same. Do you then compare it to Royal Arena or Boxen? Neither would be my suggestion.

The cost overruns on the Niels Bohr building at UCPH (yeah that is their official English abbreviation, I hate it!) is mostly because of specific installations that are required because of the research they are doing, and how the ducting isn't suitable for that, the building could work fine as a place of study at it's original price, so comparing it's original price to Glasir is valid.

The most prudent would be to compare it to a danish high-school, built to a high architectural standard, and it so happens that you can do that: Ørestad Gymnasium (Orestad College), which has won many of prizes for it's architectural design, and which has served as a spiritual basis for BIG in designing Glasir.

E-architect lists the following for Orestad College:

Address: Ørestad Boulevard / Arne Jacobsens Allé, Copenhagen
Client: Copenhagen Municipality
Award: 1. prize in invited competition 2003
Completion: 2006
Size: 12.000 m2
Budget: DKK 200 mio. / € 27 mio / $ 32.5 mio
Architect: 3XNielsen Kim Herforth Nielsen, Bo Boje Larsen, Kim Christiansen Engineer: Søren Jensen A/S
Adviser: Helle Mathiasen, cand. pæd. ph.d.

It has a DKK/m2 cost of 16667. Adjusting for price levels between 2006 and now will probably increase the cost somewhat, but not by much, it being the boom times before the last crash.


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Edited by Norlander on 09-01-2019 19:36
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Posted on 09-01-2019 20:54
very interesting +1




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